{"id":577,"date":"2022-09-30T17:11:35","date_gmt":"2022-09-30T17:11:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/weesp\/nieuws\/"},"modified":"2022-09-30T17:17:48","modified_gmt":"2022-09-30T17:17:48","slug":"openbaar-tenzij","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/weesp\/nieuws\/openbaar-tenzij","title":{"rendered":"Openbaar, tenzij"},"content":{"rendered":"<div\n  id=\"\"\n  class=\"wrapper  wrapper__spacing-bottom-large--50 wrapper__spacing-bottom-desktop--66 wrapper__spacing-bottom-mobile--76  wrapper__gutter--none\"\n  >\n  \t<div class=\"wrapper__container wrapper__container-width-large--default\">\n\t  <div class=\"wrapper__inner wrapper__width-large--14 wrapper__width-desktop--20 wrapper__width-mobile--24 wrapper__offset-large--6 wrapper__offset-desktop--4 wrapper__offset-mobile--0\">\n\t\t<h1 class=\"heading   heading__size--giant heading__font--serif heading__weight--regular  block-heading__heading\" id=\"nav-openbaar--tenzij4855\"  data-nav-heading-mobile=\"Openbaar, tenzij\" >\n\tOpenbaar, tenzij<\/h1>\t  <\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n  <\/div>\n\n\n<div\n  id=\"\"\n  class=\"wrapper  wrapper__spacing-bottom-large--50 wrapper__spacing-bottom-mobile--40  wrapper__gutter--none\"\n  >\n  \t<div class=\"wrapper__container wrapper__container-width-large--default\">\n\t  <div class=\"wrapper__inner wrapper__width-large--13 wrapper__width-desktop--22 wrapper__width-mobile--24 wrapper__offset-large--6 wrapper__offset-desktop--2 wrapper__offset-mobile--0\">\n\t\t<p\n\t\tclass=\"paragraph   paragraph__size--big   block-paragraph__paragraph\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tIn de vergadering van de bestuurscommissie op 27 september 2022 ging het bij het bespreken van de agenda lang over een ingekomen stuk. 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Met name die persoonsgegevens zijn belangrijk. Dat zou een reden kunnen zijn om een stuk inderdaad vertrouwelijk te bespreken.<br><br>De Wet Open Overheid heeft als uitgangspunt dat zoveel mogelijk informatie vanuit de overheid openbaar beschikbaar en toegankelijk is. Dat geldt \u00f3\u00f3k voor ingekomen stukken, zowel voor de Tweede Kamer, Provincies, Waterschappen, Gemeenteraden en dus ook voor de Bestuurscommissie van Weesp. Vanuit D66 zijn we een voorvechter van maximale openheid. In een tijd waarin het vertrouwen van inwoners richting de overheid al historisch laag is, is het nog belangrijker geworden om niet geheimzinnig te doen.\t<\/p>\t  <\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n  <\/div>\n\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t<div class=\"block-post-content__sidebar\">\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/section>\n\t  <\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n  <\/div>\n\n\n<div\n  id=\"\"\n  class=\"wrapper  wrapper__spacing-bottom-large--50 wrapper__spacing-bottom-desktop--70 wrapper__spacing-bottom-mobile--50  wrapper__gutter--none\"\n  >\n  \t<div class=\"wrapper__container wrapper__container-width-large--default\">\n\t  <div class=\"wrapper__inner wrapper__width-large--18 wrapper__width-desktop--22 wrapper__width-mobile--24 wrapper__offset-large--6 wrapper__offset-desktop--2 wrapper__offset-mobile--0\">\n\t\t<section class=\"block-post-content\">\n\t<div class=\"block-post-content__title\">\n\t\t<h3 class=\"heading  heading__color--black heading__size--medium heading__font--sans heading__weight--semiBold  block-post-content__heading\" id=\"nav-moeten-we-dan---lles-openbaar-bespreken-2909\" data-nav-heading-mobile=\"Moeten we dan \u00e1lles openbaar bespreken?\">\n\tMoeten we dan \u00e1lles openbaar bespreken?<\/h3>\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"block-post-content__content\">\n\t\t\n<div\n  id=\"\"\n  class=\"wrapper  wrapper__spacing-bottom-large--30 wrapper__spacing-bottom-desktop--20  wrapper__gutter--none\"\n  >\n  \t<div class=\"wrapper__container wrapper__container-width-large--default\">\n\t  <div class=\"wrapper__inner wrapper__width-large--24 wrapper__width-mobile--24\">\n\t\t<p\n\t\tclass=\"paragraph paragraph__align--left paragraph__color--black paragraph__size--default   block-paragraph__paragraph\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tNee, maar dus wel zoveel mogelijk. De eerder genoemde Wet Open Overheid omschrijft namelijk ook situaties waarin informatie niet openbaar besproken mag worden. Je kan dan denken aan de inzet bij onderhandelingen of zaken die personen aan gaan. Om een stuk niet in het openbaar te bespreken, moet in een apart voorstel vastgelegd zijn waarom die situatie van toepassing is. Ook moet er in een voorstel staan hoe lang de informatie vertrouwelijk moet blijven. Pas als vervolgens de Bestuurscommissie besluit dat ze achter dit voorstel staan, mag een stuk in een besloten deel van de vergadering besproken worden. Er mag dan geen publiek bij zijn en de \u2018stream\u2019 van de vergadering wordt niet meer uitgezonden.\t<\/p>\t  <\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n  <\/div>\n\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t<div class=\"block-post-content__sidebar\">\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/section>\n\t  <\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n  <\/div>\n\n\n<div\n  id=\"\"\n  class=\"wrapper  wrapper__spacing-bottom-large--50 wrapper__spacing-bottom-desktop--70 wrapper__spacing-bottom-mobile--50  wrapper__gutter--none\"\n  >\n  \t<div class=\"wrapper__container wrapper__container-width-large--default\">\n\t  <div class=\"wrapper__inner wrapper__width-large--18 wrapper__width-desktop--22 wrapper__width-mobile--24 wrapper__offset-large--6 wrapper__offset-desktop--2 wrapper__offset-mobile--0\">\n\t\t<section class=\"block-post-content\">\n\t<div class=\"block-post-content__title\">\n\t\t<h3 class=\"heading  heading__color--black heading__size--medium heading__font--sans heading__weight--semiBold  block-post-content__heading\" id=\"nav-waar-ging-het-op-27-september-mis-4120\" data-nav-heading-mobile=\"Waar ging het op 27 september mis?\">\n\tWaar ging het op 27 september mis?<\/h3>\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"block-post-content__content\">\n\t\t\n<div\n  id=\"\"\n  class=\"wrapper  wrapper__spacing-bottom-large--30 wrapper__spacing-bottom-desktop--20  wrapper__gutter--none\"\n  >\n  \t<div class=\"wrapper__container wrapper__container-width-large--default\">\n\t  <div class=\"wrapper__inner wrapper__width-large--24 wrapper__width-mobile--24\">\n\t\t<p\n\t\tclass=\"paragraph paragraph__align--left paragraph__color--black paragraph__size--default   block-paragraph__paragraph\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tOp twee fronten. Allereerst lag er, zoals CDA-bestuurscommissielid Cees Sluyk terecht aangaf, geen onderbouwd voorstel waarom het stuk niet in het openbaar besproken kon worden. Er werd een besluit genomen door de bestuurscommissie waarvan niet vastlag waarover precies gestemd werd.<br><br>Daarnaast werd het besloten deel van de vergadering als \u2018informeel\u2019 betiteld. Dat betekent dat er geen (vertrouwelijke) notulen werden gemaakt. Ondanks de beste intenties om zorgvuldig om te gaan met persoonsgegevens, is het niet goed om op deze manier te vergaderen. Het moet later nog steeds te achterhalen zijn wat er is besproken. Als Bestuurscommissie moeten we voorkomen dat we op een glijdende schaal terecht komen waarbij steeds meer stukken in een informele vergadering besproken worden. 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