{"id":30456,"date":"2020-02-20T10:08:16","date_gmt":"2020-02-20T08:08:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/"},"modified":"2020-02-20T10:08:16","modified_gmt":"2020-02-20T08:08:16","slug":"aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg","status":"publish","type":"archive","link":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/","title":{"rendered":"Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n\nDe kosten van de zorg zijn al jaren onderwerp van discussie in de politiek. In deze aflevering gaan we het hebben over de kosten van de zorg met Michiel Verkoulen, oud-bestuurslid van D66 maar tegenwoordig werkzaam als adviseur voor de zorgsector, en Bram Wouterse, Universitair Docent Health Economics aan de Erasmus Universiteit. Tijdens het gesprek zal het onder andere gaan over de definitie van zorgkosten en de vraag of we zorg wel kunnen zien als een zaak van kosten en baten.\n\nAan tafel:\n\n<strong>Michiel Verkoulen<\/strong>, oud-bestuurslid D66 en adviseur in de zorg\n<strong>Bram Wouterse<\/strong>, Universitair Docent Health Economics aan de Erasmus Universiteit\n\nInterviewer:\n\n<strong>Dani\u00ebl Schut<\/strong>, podcast-presentator en eigenaar AD REM\n\n<\/div>\n<strong>Onze podcasts zijn ook te beluisteren via:<\/strong>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/00KpLpizSG5zRdfhZpawXr\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-11914 \" src=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2019\/03\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"60\" \/><\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/nl\/podcast\/kosten-van-de-zorg\/id1452541963?i=1000466221901\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-11915\" src=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2019\/03\/listen-itunes-300x112.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"198\" height=\"74\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/castbox.fm\/episode\/Kosten-van-de-zorg-id2018623-id231863339?country=nl\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13372 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2020\/02\/castbox-300x138.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"148\" height=\"68\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/+QupSbSVRM\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-13373\" src=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2020\/02\/overcast-300x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"65\" height=\"65\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/podplayer.net\/?id=96321185\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-13374\" src=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2020\/02\/podcastaddict-300x80.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"210\" height=\"56\" \/><\/a>\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/app.stitcher.com\/splayer\/f\/453740\/65980045\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-13375\" src=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2020\/02\/stitcher-300x260.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"89\" height=\"77\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n&nbsp;\n\n&nbsp;\n\n&nbsp;\n\n&nbsp;\n\n&nbsp;\n\nDaarnaast ook nog via <a href=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.transistor.fm\/episodes\/kosten-van-de-zorg\">Transistor.fm<\/a>\u00a0of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.transistor.fm\/file\/transistor\/m\/shows\/1128\/e1d41df44220c280a9cb6f1307a48b97.mp3\">hier<\/a> direct te downloaden!\n\n<strong>Heeft u genoten van deze podcasts? Om deze podcasts \u00e9n onze andere activiteiten mogelijk te maken, kunnen we uw giften goed gebruiken! <\/strong><strong>Klik op onderstaande button, of klik <a href=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/doneren\/\">hier<\/a> voor meer informatie over doneren aan de Mr. Hans van Mierlo Stichting.\u00a0<\/strong>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/useplink.com\/payment\/SsA3uJF2BkUxGu3w3zF7\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-12492\" src=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2019\/07\/button_steun-ons-2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"223\" height=\"53\" \/><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":35,"featured_media":0,"menu_order":0,"template":"","class_list":["post-30456","archive","type-archive","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg &#8211; Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"nl_NL\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg &#8211; Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"De kosten van de zorg zijn al jaren onderwerp van discussie in de politiek. In deze aflevering gaan we het hebben over de kosten van de zorg met Michiel Verkoulen, oud-bestuurslid van D66 maar tegenwoordig werkzaam als adviseur voor de zorgsector, en Bram Wouterse, Universitair Docent Health Economics aan de Erasmus Universiteit. Tijdens het gesprek [&hellip;]\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/vanmierlostichting\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2019\/03\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@vmstichting\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Geschatte leestijd\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"1 minuut\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\\\/\",\"name\":\"Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg &#8211; Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\\\/content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/296\\\/2019\\\/03\\\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png\",\"datePublished\":\"2020-02-20T08:08:16+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\\\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"nl-NL\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\\\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"nl-NL\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\\\/#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\\\/content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/296\\\/2019\\\/03\\\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\\\/content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/296\\\/2019\\\/03\\\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png\"},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\\\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Archives\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/archive\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":3,\"name\":\"Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/\",\"name\":\"Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting\",\"description\":\"Just another WordPress site\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/#organization\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"nl-NL\"},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/#organization\",\"name\":\"Mr. Hans van Mierlo Stichting\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/\",\"logo\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"nl-NL\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/4\\\/2021\\\/05\\\/Mr-Hans-van-Mierlo-stichting-logo.png\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/4\\\/2021\\\/05\\\/Mr-Hans-van-Mierlo-stichting-logo.png\",\"width\":1920,\"height\":1080,\"caption\":\"Mr. Hans van Mierlo Stichting\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/d66.nl\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\"},\"sameAs\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/www.facebook.com\\\/vanmierlostichting\\\/\",\"https:\\\/\\\/x.com\\\/vmstichting\",\"https:\\\/\\\/www.instagram.com\\\/mr.hansvanmierlostichting\\\/\"]}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg &#8211; Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/","og_locale":"nl_NL","og_type":"article","og_title":"Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg &#8211; Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting","og_description":"De kosten van de zorg zijn al jaren onderwerp van discussie in de politiek. In deze aflevering gaan we het hebben over de kosten van de zorg met Michiel Verkoulen, oud-bestuurslid van D66 maar tegenwoordig werkzaam als adviseur voor de zorgsector, en Bram Wouterse, Universitair Docent Health Economics aan de Erasmus Universiteit. Tijdens het gesprek [&hellip;]","og_url":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/","og_site_name":"Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting","article_publisher":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/vanmierlostichting\/","og_image":[{"url":"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2019\/03\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png","type":"","width":"","height":""}],"twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_site":"@vmstichting","twitter_misc":{"Geschatte leestijd":"1 minuut"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/","url":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/","name":"Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg &#8211; Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2019\/03\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png","datePublished":"2020-02-20T08:08:16+00:00","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"nl-NL","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"nl-NL","@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/#primaryimage","url":"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2019\/03\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png","contentUrl":"https:\/\/vanmierlostichting.d66.nl\/content\/uploads\/sites\/296\/2019\/03\/Spotify_Logo_RGB_Green-300x90.png"},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/aflevering-12-de-kosten-van-de-zorg\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Archives","item":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/archive\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":3,"name":"Aflevering 12: De kosten van de zorg"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/#website","url":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/","name":"Mr. Hans van Mierlo stichting","description":"Just another WordPress site","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/#organization"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"nl-NL"},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/#organization","name":"Mr. Hans van Mierlo Stichting","url":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"nl-NL","@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/05\/Mr-Hans-van-Mierlo-stichting-logo.png","contentUrl":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/05\/Mr-Hans-van-Mierlo-stichting-logo.png","width":1920,"height":1080,"caption":"Mr. Hans van Mierlo Stichting"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/"},"sameAs":["https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/vanmierlostichting\/","https:\/\/x.com\/vmstichting","https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/mr.hansvanmierlostichting\/"]}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/archive\/30456","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/archive"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/archive"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/35"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/d66.nl\/vanmierlostichting\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30456"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}